Tuesday, April 26, 2005

Poor, Poor, Pitiful Jane

On April 22, Jane Fonda was Bill Maher's guest on Real Time.

Transcript Excerpts:

FONDA: I've been on the road for two-and-a-half weeks, and hundreds of Vietnam veterans have crossed my path at the various events and book signings, and they've been fabulous. [applause] You know, they've—

MAHER: Yeah.

FONDA: --they've been friendly and welcoming. And they have forgiven me. And so there are some who are stuck back there and – but most are not.

MAHER: Yeah, it really is on them at this point, isn't it, if somebody can't get over something in 35 years.

FONDA: Well, you know, the problem is we've never come to terms with the war. You know, generally, the revisionism that started during the Reagan Administration has been bought into by a lot of people in this country, and it's prevented us from learning the lessons that we were supposed to learn from the war.

Fonda blames Reagan for a revisionism that keeps Americans from understanding Vietnam and some vets from forgiving her. Yeah, that makes sense.


FONDA: And – and so they blame the anti-war movement and people like me for losing the war. It was a war we couldn't win, and five administrations knew that and sent men over there to die in spite of it. [applause]

MAHER: Yeah. And I think what they would say is, “Yes, but that's something different than going to the country that was fighting us, however wrong the war would be. And I think you've acknowledged that yourself.

FONDA: No. Hunh-huh, no. I went to North Vietnam . There were only 24,000 American combat troops in South Vietnam when I went in 1972, and the Nixon Administration was lying to the American people, and men were dying as a result. And I went to expose the lies and stop the bombing of the dikes, which, according to Kissinger, would have caused about 200,000 people to starve. I am proud that I went. About 300 people had gone before me to North Vietnam , Americans. The thing that I apologized for was sitting on an anti-aircraft gun.

Again, Fonda apologizes for sitting on the gun. NOTHING ELSE.


FONDA: --Air Force, Marines, sailors. I had spent a lot of time with soldiers and listened to them, and knew their stories, and knew their wives, what their wives had to say. It's why I made “Coming Home” later, because I knew a lot about what was going on. It was servicemen that got me into the war. What I heard from them made me understand that that war was different than the war that my father had fought, the Second World War.

MAHER: Yeah. What about the war that's going on now? How valid a comparison point is Vietnam , do you think, to what's going on in Iraq ?

FONDA: Well, the similarity is that – based on lies. American men, and in this case, men and women—[applause]—are being sent into harm's way based on lies. This is – Vietnam was based on lies and deceit. And, you know, none of us like bullies like Saddam Hussein, you know. Not a good guy at all. There were other ways of getting rid of him, and I would be all for that. But we didn't have to kill 100,000 innocent women and children and innocent men—[applause]—in order to – in order to do that.

MAHER: But we're there now. And, yes, I agree, they lied like the thieves they are, to get us into that war. But don't you think there's something more hopeful that may be going on there now than was ever possible in Vietnam ? Can't some good come out of bad? Even a lying – I mean, some people would say you have to lie to get people into any war.

FONDA: No, the – no, I don't agree with that. Something may come out, but I fear very much that it's – that we've laid the groundwork for an increase in terrorism. We have prepared a fertile ground for recruiting terrorists in Iraq , where one didn't exist before we went in there. We still haven't gotten Osama bin Laden. You know, there were other ways to do it.

In effect, Fonda is stating that our military has not accomplished anything of value in Iraq. She dwells on the innocents killed in the fighting, but ignores the mass murder, the mass graves, the brutality and suffering of Iraqis under Saddam Hussein's regime. She ignores the fact that for fourteen years the dictator refused to comply with UN resolutions and relief for Iraqis was nowhere in sight.

Fonda says there was a better way. Exactly what would that be? It's that same John Kerry "I have a plan" gibberish.

She believes Iraq was not a recruiting ground for terrorists before the war. How inexcusably naive!


FONDA: I don't believe in the Christianity that says one thing and then goes and kills innocent people and tries to rob women of their fundamental human right to control their reproductive lives, or deny people of the same sex their right to be married and have relationships—[applause]—and is judgmental and narrow-minded, and angry and vengeful. That is not the Jesus Christ that I believe in. And there's a lot of people like me out there. [applause] [cheers]

What? Fonda has reconstructed Christianity to feed her massive ego and fit her political agenda.

If she believes Jesus is pro-abortion, she is pathetically misguided.

It's hard to be angry at someone who is so messed up. I pity her.


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