In a previous entry, I wrote about Murray's online postings.
I questioned whether the administrator of the forum and visitors to the website contacted authorities when they read Murray's posts.
That prompted "smellincoffee" to leave a comment. He claims to be a participant on the forum.
He writes:
Speaking as someone who has been a member of that website for the past two years, this week was the first time he made threatening statements -- and as soon as he did, he was reported.
The blame lies with him and his refusal to seek help.
I asked what he meant by, "he was reported."
That's very vague. Reported to whom?
Hours later, he posts this comment in reply:
The forum admin reported his posts to the FBI, who were soon in contact with him. I learned today that one of our members actually submitted his username and some chat transcripts to a suicide hotline.
Unfortunately, he didn't post any real threats until after the first killings, and then the second killings took place only an hour later -- we don't usually have a lot of activity at that time of day.
Of course, this could be a poser.
I have no way of knowing if "smellincoffee" is really a participant on the forum that Murray frequented.
But according to media reports, participants did notify the FBI upon reading the disturbing posts.
From the Los Angeles Times:
[A] website aimed at people who have left Pentecostal and charismatic churches reported that Murray may have posted violent statements on its online forum between the two shootings.
Murray's first attack occurred at 12:30 a.m. Sunday, when he killed two staffers at a missionary school in Arvada, Colo., that had expelled him. The attack at New Life happened about 1:10 p.m.
The rambling postings quote liberally from dark rock songs and were written by a user called nghtmrchld26, who complained about his time at Youth With a Mission in Arvada.
"Thank you to all you christians who've made me this way . . . I'm just so full of hate now and I love it," the poster wrote at 4:07 a.m. "Forcing all your religious [expletive] down my throat all these [expletive] years with your dominionist christian agenda . . . well . . . the abuse ends NOW . . . give me one good reason why I should show ANY mercy and compassion for ANY of you idiots."
In his final sequence, posted at 10:55 a.m., nghtmrchld26 quotes verbatim from a manifesto left by one of the two Columbine killers, inserting the term "Christians" for the person those shooters targeted.
Other participants on the forum were alarmed and called the FBI when they saw the statements, said Joe Istre, the site's administrator.
Susan Medina, a spokeswoman for the Arvada Police Department, said authorities were inspecting a computer seized from Murray's home to determine whether he was nghtmrchld26.
"smellincoffee" says that the forum admin alerted the FBI about the nature of Murray's comments, not other participants.
I'm somewhat skeptical about "smellincoffee."
Why wasn't this Internet element of the story reported immediately?
The FBI would have been notified before the second round of killings. The shooter was dead, not at large. Releasing that information wouldn't have an impact on the investigation of the murders.
I assume nghtmrchld26's postings will be carefully analyzed, as well as whether Murray used multiple identities on the forum. Authorities will sort through his other online activities.
They're important. Were there warning signs in his posts prior to the explicitly threatening remarks he posted on Sunday?
Were authorities contacted for the first time on Sunday?
I'm not shifting blame for the deaths on to anyone else. Murray, and Murray alone is responsible.
But there are ramifications regarding the content on Internet forums, the participants and their culpability.
It's a new world.
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Another thing worth noting about this LA Times article is its attack on security guard and hero Jeanne Assam.
She saved lives by thwarting Murray's bloody mission.
For her remarkable bravery, what does she get? Grief.
The Times writes:
The gunman who killed four people in shooting rampages at two Colorado religious institutions committed suicide after he was shot by a church security guard, police said Tuesday.
An autopsy showed that Matthew Murray, 24, died of a self-inflicted wound after being shot several times Sunday by volunteer security guard Jeanne Assam at New Life Church in Colorado Springs.
Assam, a former Minneapolis police officer, confronted Murray as he burst into the foyer after fatally shooting two teenage girls in the church parking lot. Authorities have credited Assam for saving untold lives because Murray was armed with three guns and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition.
Minneapolis newspapers reported Tuesday that Assam had been dismissed from the department in 1997 for lying to investigators about her use of profanity in an argument with a bus driver.
How is Assam's dismissal from the Minneapolis police department relevant?
She lied about using profanity. So what?
What does that have to do with her role in ending Murray's slaughter?
It's as if the lib media are bending over backwards to discredit her. It's as if they can't bear that a woman with a gun succeeded in stopping the killer from claiming more victims.
Is that all they found on Assam?
I'm sure they're looking for more.
Assam deserves respect for what she did on Sunday. There's no need whatsoever to unearth an event in her life from ten years ago.
Bill Clinton repeatedly lies under oath. He lies to a grand jury. That doesn't matter.
Whenever the LA Times writes something about Bill Clinton, do they add a paragraph about his compulsive lying? Are his extramarital romps brought up whenever he's in the news?
I think it's really sleazy for Assam to be put under the microscope. She saved lives because she had a gun and was able to stop Murray.
The libs can't stand it.
How sick is that?
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